Do I have to pay union dues if I don’t want to be in the union


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Guest: Uh, I was curious, I know there was a case that went through, I believe the Supreme Court about union dues and if you had to pay you any dues even though you didn’t really support where the dues money was going.

New Speaker: Yup. Yup.

New Speaker: And I was just trying to clear that up. The, so if you’re in the union right now, can you legally not pay union dues and still, will they kick you out of the union or how does that work?

Brian: So that case that you’re talking about went to the United States Supreme Court. It was a very controversial case and made a lot of people angry on the side that laws, but it basically had to do with requiring government workers to pay union dues. Okay. And, uh, the Supreme Court said you can opt out of that, that the thing that hasn’t been decided yet is how do you, how do you make a person pay for, uh, benefits they’re receiving? Um,

Guest: Simply because they’re a member of a group

Brian: Yeah, that’s right. That didn’t apply to private companies. Now, I know that in, uh, in, in Detroit, you know, the auto capital of the world, um, the, the auto companies actually likes the unions. They work with the unions and they enforce the union dues. And, and, uh, unions have been very good for many, many, many years for lots of people and they’ve helped create the middleclass that the upper class now is trying to tear apart. So, um, I still think if you’re working for a private corporation that you’re gonna probably have to pay the union dues, but if you are a government worker, then the court says you don’t have to do that. Does that answer your question for you, Scott?

Guest: Ah, well I work for a, uh, like a local municipality

Brian: then I think, I think, I think that you, that that case applies to you. I think that you can opt out of that, but you know, you gotta remember that and for every, every person’s actions, you’re going to have some consequence. So, um, I’m not certain that they’re going to just recognize that Supreme Court case way down at that, you know, two foot level. Uh, and, uh, let you out of that.

Justin: Yeah, that’d be, have you asked yet maybe if anyone done it that you’re aware of at your place?

Guest: Uh, no. We, yeah, we have no one who has done it.

Justin: Yeah.

Guest: But I was just curious. And then we’re also there, they make us pay into a, uh, some type of a retirement fund, which we have our own retirement fund, IMRF and then there’s another retirement fund through the local. But the retirement funds to the local has been losing money for probably the past 15 years and they, we have no way to opt out or that, and I didn’t know if there some rules in there, some like investing rules that if the investors, if you’re negatively affected for so long that you are not obligated to have to pay into that.

Brian: Um, you know, I don’t have enough information on that. Did you have an email? Uh, uh, Scott? I do. Can you send me your question in more detail to, um, ask brian@thelashow.com.

Guest: Okay.

Brian: Could you do that?

Guest: Yes, sir.

Brian: All right.

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